The Constitutional Court discussion on The Oath of Offices

On August 13, 2012 Justice McPherson made a proposal to amend the oath of office for all CSA Provisional government depts. As well as an addition to the CSA citizenship application as follows….

*I recognize that the Confederated Republican Government of the Confederate States of America has never surrendered.

*I also recognize that the Confederated Republican Government of the Confederate States of America can never be surrendered.

Justice Joyce offered his opinion in the following…..

The following is the constitutional oath of office for the President and Vice President;

(10) Before he enters on the execution of his office he shall take the following oath or affirmation: “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the Confederate States, and will, to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution thereof.”

Personally, I would like to make the oath of office a noose for those who would abuse or usurp power not delegated. Something along the following lines;

I do solemnly swear (or affirm), upon pain of immediate removal from office, that I will faithfully execute the office of (enter office) for the Confederate States, and shall, to the best of my abilities conduct the affairs of the office of (enter office) strictly within the delegated powers of the constitution without any attempt at subterfuge or designs of expanding government beyond the scope of said constitution.

That should cover a multitude of sins.

Justice Everett offered this opinion……

 

I like this, all loop holes need to be eliminated, and listing a consequence for violation sounds like a good idea.

This could also be added as one of the courts suggested revisions to the constitution.

 

Justice McPherson responded with the opinion……

Yes, Dennis’ suggestion has merit because all government tends to usurp power not delegated.

Let me incorporate this concept and get back in touch soon.

 

Douglas

 

Justice Joyce offered further opinion……..

I do solemnly swear (or affirm), upon pain of immediate removal from office, that I will faithfully execute the office of (enter office) for the Confederate States, and shall, to the best of my abilities conduct the affairs of the office of (enter office) strictly within the delegated powers of the constitution without any attempt at subterfuge or designs of expanding government beyond the scope of said constitution.I am fully cognizant of the fact that removal from office automatically lodges a complaint of fraud and/or false swearing and subjects me to a possible fine of $100 thousand and/or ten years in prison.

 

That should be a better wakeup than a strong cup of coffee.

 

Dennis

 

Justice McPherson offered this wording……

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) upon pain of immediate removal from office, that I will faithfully execute the office of (enter office) for the Confederate States, performing all duties incumbent upon me according to the best of my abilities while guarding against all enemies foreign or domestic. I shall to the best of my abilities, conduct the affairs of this office strictly within the powers delegated me pursuant to the Constitution for the Confederate States of America. This shall be faithfully done without any attempt at subterfuge or designs of expanding government beyond the scope of said constitution. I am fully cognizant that would be fraudulent and non-Confederate activity subjecting me to appropriate sanction. So help me God.

Douglas

Justice Joyce countered with this opinion …..

Too much wiggle room. The charge and possible penalties need to be stated too as they will claim gross ignorance and the people will believe them.

 

Dennis

Justice McPherson ……

Very good points you are making.

My only concern is that this detracts from what should be a very plesant occasion, appointment to a Confederate office.

We could put the possible penalties in a footnote referenced by an *

 

Douglas

 

Justice Joyce……

I would recommend impeachment by the citizens as another desirable penalty that will keep congress on its toes as well.

 

Dennis

 

Justice McPherson then offered this new wording…..

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) upon pain of immediate removal from office, that I will faithfully execute the office of (enter office) for the Confederate States, performing all duties incumbent upon me according to the best of my abilities while guarding against all enemies foreign or domestic. I recognize that the Confederated Republican form of Government of has never surrendered. I also recognize that the Confederated Republican form of Government can never be surrendered. I shall to the best of my abilities, conduct the affairs of this office strictly within the powers delegated me pursuant to the Constitution for the Confederate States of America. This shall be faithfully done without any attempt at subterfuge or designs of expanding government beyond the scope of said constitution. I am fully cognizant that would be fraudulent and non-Confederate activity subjecting me to appropriate *sanctions. So help me God.

[*sanctions: Appropriate sanctions include any or all of the following: Impeachment by sovereign Citizens of the various State Republics; Judicial Complaint for Fraud and/or False Swearing; Possible fine and/or Sentence of Internment].

Douglas

 

Justice Joyce…….

They have to say the words in their oaths so it is witnessed. Anything less makes a mockery of the oath and that’s how we got here to start with. This isn’t a feel good exercise nor are we obligated to make happy all comers. It is well past time to become hardnosed and go from there.

These things we are discussing should have a place on the government site and a provision for citizens to have their say via comments. It might generate a great deal more interest in the effort.

 

Dennis

 

Justice McPherson…..

Dennis,

I’m with you on this.

 

Douglas

One Response to “The Constitutional Court discussion on The Oath of Offices”

  1. Littel Bright Feather says:

    IT is good that loop holes are closed and verbally in the oath. I noticed that Treason no longer holds the death penalty. For any breech of the oath or the CSA Constitution IS Treason. Also so far we are still using the US “dollar” values. When we have our own currency (which should have been established by now) that fee punishment will be seemingly extreme since our currency will hold true value and not the US devalued dollar amount. I like the ten years in prison. Plus that person many NOT hold any office again should be part of the punishment. The CSA Constitution needs to NOW be updated with those loop holes eliminated and NOT based on the US Constitution which Elites basically wrote to set up a powerful centralized CONTROLLING govt. Congress people need to be made to BE the representatives they are meant to be and able to be fired by the people if they fail. Also the latest 28th Amendment of the US Constitution needs to be also incorporated in the CSA Constitution since that protects from the very things here we are discussing. Also no EO’s allowed, and stated so in the Constitution as forbidden. That will stop a President from making himself a king and emperor dictator. Any and all laws created by Congress MUST be in agreement with the Constitutions itself. Seems these days everything has to be made crystal clear.

    Just some thoughts.

    Carrie Taranova

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